night before i must admit some ... some worry.

while i'm sure it'll be interesting on a technical level- almost all of his comics after a point have been incredibly fascinating in that regard...

i'm not sure i'm necessarily interested in what Clowes has to say about superhero comics.

and to the extent that it seems to be about that, i don't know. i don't really remember his last one, that one in the caricature book- black nylon? vague memory of it. it was some tiresome thing about how it was all about sex?(which ... is somehow incredibly true and yet still misses the point somehow, simultaneously). i remember not caring for it. or the little superhero bits in lloyd lewellyn (i didn't like anything much in llewellyn besides the art)...

i just remember it was all the parts about clowes i'm least interested in... clowes when he's engaged with the world around him's fun, but when its just him crawling into a sort of snide superiority schtick... which is a big thing that makes alternative comics fun, sure, granted, but... i never liked it from clowes the way i liked it from bagge... clowes was just more abrasive, less willing to go all the way with it like bagge would...

(i remember having very strong negative feelings about "gynecology" but its been a few years- i may have been too young for it before. again, very impressed technically, but... i remember feeling that the elements they borrowed for the movie, which i guess was just the blackface painting, that it was put to better effect there...)

see, but from what i've seen, the thing in this week's newsweek or whatever, and you guys, it sounds like its more about pop iconography than superheros specifically, so i find THAT interesting, and i'm looking forward to that.

but given that its been a couple years and he may have more to say, and given what's sure to be its technical excellence, and given that the larger culture has embraced superheros now to an insufferable degree... and given your and sean's reviews...(SHIT KNIFE??? and Fire Walk with Me quotes??? uhm, awesome, awesome work)(everything after the bowie scene in that movie, i can't watch, just think its DREADFUL... loved the show but that movie)(well the end with the angel and evil basically winning... that part's good)...

i'm more interested in what sean was talking, about the serial killer angle... and what you're talking about, how he apparently uses the iconography this time... but see, its the kind of thing i really want to hear from someone who really DIGS superhero comics on.

you know: as long as its not some blogosphere "comics are fascist" thing made flesh, i'll probably be happy. which ... i have no reason to suspect that.

its exciting any which way though, just to see what he's been working on... i mostly just wanted to talk about being look forward to it. just.. yeah, a certain antsiness about it. after 22, seeing what he does after 22, and hearing its some superhero thing, which... its, like, he better admit superheros comics are AWESOME otherwise i'm going to end up wondering why he's wasting 2 years or however long doing one... and there's that whole weird argument terrain of "superhero comics are awful except superhero comics which criticize superhero comics but those don't even though they're superhero comics" thing which ... i'm just exhausted by.

all the years and now with the blogosphere repeating this same bullshit ENDLESSLY now in lieu of actually talking about comics... i'm just exhausted by the whole thing you know, so i'm just worried i won't be able to enjoy it on its own terms because i've been reading, you know, eve tushnet respond to tim o'neill respond to neilalien respond to johnny bacardi on whether superheros are righteous dudes or not....

like, the whole comics about comics thing...

any of that coherent? yeah, maybe next time...
-abhay